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Brenda Elthon's avatar

Thank you, Dan. Very clarifying.

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Robin's avatar

I am new to Claire’s house of information. I knew, as an American, that Israel was divided, that Bibi was radically right wing , but I had no idea the haredim exerted such influence and power over Israeli politics and in my mind as I follow (but do not support Trump’s vision of a Christian Nationalist nation) recent political tides I am very afraid for my home, the United States of America.

I do understand that the Palestinians, particularly in the Wst Bank have been screwed over and displaced. Christopher Hutchins spoke in generalities of the situation in terms of its unethical conduct, greed and corruption but I have not read enough of him yet to fully understand the implications until reading you, Mr. Perry. As an educated person with a post grad degree I am afraid for Israel and the US if religious nationalism takes over.

What is amazing to me is that you describe millions of uneducated, unprepared, unproductive people trying to manage a country. Certainly food for thought and much appreciated. I just subscribed to your you tube channel. Hope to read more of your intelligent analysis in future

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Kathy Mullen's avatar

Thank you for another well-articulated article. You have addressed the subject of how Netanyahu's government policies are not working well within Israel in a way that I can understand it more clearly.

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Julie Berins Gillis's avatar

This is a great article, albeit depressing.

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Joel Lloyd Bellenson's avatar

When you find yourself railing against Shabbat, you know you might need to revisit the 10 commandments.

Your squeamishness toward acknowledging, let alone the necessity and righteousness of expulsion of, hostile Muslim Supremacists who either deny October 7 occurred or approve of it by between 75-90+% also requires a sanity check.

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Dan Perry's avatar

I have no squeamishness at all in acknowledging that. It's true. Just not the subject of this particular essay -- and I'm making a point that Israel is self-destructing INDEPENDENT of that and in a way that makes its enemies quite happy. Keep denying it and they will be happier still.

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Joel Lloyd Bellenson's avatar

Dear Dan, as I've written you before I believe the religious threat is a bogeyman used by the AngloAmerican Oiligarchies and Wokeist Atheists as well as Fallacystinianism to sow divisions amongst us.

Rabbi Dee addresses the exaggerations by our secular brethren.

The haredim are our secret weapon

The rest of the world is also beginning to recognize the unique value of Israel’s religiously committed population.

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/387439

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Dan Perry's avatar

They COULD be all those things on the conditions I noted: end the dependence on welfare, start educating the children for employability, end the ghettoization, stop enraging the others by refusing service, etc etc. Just to say everything is OK when is so manifestly isn't is not a wise way forward for Israel, in my view.

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Stacy's avatar

Long live Spinoza!! A Saint of secularism and sanity.

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Bayesian's avatar

Thank you for this, Dan (I'm also someone introduced to your work by Claire Belinski; thanks, Claire).

I did _not_ know that Israeli citizens abroad (other than in the settlements) cannot vote; I find that rather surprising and quite unusual - most developed countries (at least; not meaning to limit to developed countries) do allow their expatriate citizens quite a lot of voting opportunity.

Has it always been thus (i.e. since 1948)?

It's something of a nit, but I find "the world’s first personal computer microprocessors" to be a pretty severe stretch**, and unnecessary to the broader point you are trying to make about Israel's technology sector. Israel is now, and has been for quite some time, world class is quite a few aspects of microelectronics design (and several other technology fields).

** The Intel 8088 microprocessor in the original 1981 release IBM PC was designed at Intel's Intel's Research & Development Center in Haifa as a relatively minor modification of the Intel 8086 (which had been designed in California). Rather earlier examples of commercially available personal computers, like the Apple II, the TRS-80, and the Commodore PET, all used microprocessors designed in the US. The first microarchitecture that was primarily (exclusively, I *think*) developed at Intel Haifa was the Core M, codename "Banias", public release 2003. Most (though by no means all) of Intel's high end personal and mobile microprocessors have been developed in Israel starting with "Sandy Bridge", released 2011.

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Ian Joseph's avatar

I wrote a blog post in a similar vein about six months ago.

https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/a-future-history-of-israel/

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Ian Joseph's avatar

I agree with the prognosis. I fear that the cure is an unattainable fantasy. I blogged a somewhat gloomy prognosis and future.

https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/a-future-history-of-israel/

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Abh's avatar

israel will collapse within our life times, thank all Gods

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No name's avatar

Fascinating read about the dangers of religious fanaticism. It is no different from any other fanaticism and its destructive force, except here, it is self destructive. Sad.

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